It’s like the old saying: If you go playing around with fire, try not to get burnt lol. (the fire being rare items)
I think my intention is on the trying not to get burnt part but I’m not always the best at communicating so maybe I should just stop trying to.
My intention doesn’t have any ill-will behind it but maybe I am failing to do that so I should just quit it.
The work by you and your team is incredible. This is quite the resume builder (though I know it is a passion project.)
I’ve found the toughest thing about forums are the lack of human expression.
100% same. I enjoy the discussion and occasional debate around this topic but at the end of the day I’m a player who started when rares being released was announced and have no intention of going anywhere regardless of the price they settle at or whether I can afford one in two months or two years.
Rares, to me, represent an infinitely scalable endgame. Even if they’re too rare in my opinion I’d still take someone other than me having them over nobody having them every time.
The future updates are going to be awesome. I wish there was some sort of basic data entry I could do to help on weekends that I’m available. Unfortunately I can’t, and don’t desire to code. If I can find cache, I will.
Yea, I think like the logout timer (for example), there is a mismatch here between authenticity and what may be more popular. If I had to guess (I have no data to back this up, just my intuition), a more “popular” approach would be a rarity such that the average player’s chance to get one by the end of the event is more like 50/50 instead of 1/8.
This way, a common mindset or outlook/attitude would be “I will probably get one, and in time they will gain rarity/value (unlike OSRS’s rares which it seems everyone hated)” instead of “I probably won’t get one, and likely can’t even buy one unless I’m quite wealthy”, the latter of which feels especially bad since one might expect rares to be more attainable upon their release.
I think many of us have had the thought of “if I could go back in time in RS I would get a rare and hold onto it”, but here there is not that opportunity even though this is the earliest opportunity to get them. So it’s almost like a multiplier on the FOMO trauma we have from original RS rares 
One of our players has found something suitable for my cache-4-rare offer and will be receiving something today once I finish verifying it 
Ohhh that’s exciting this is like a rare being dropped for the developers lol, can’t wait to see what it might be!
That’s great news, good to hear!
boomer cope, people have been saying “kids these dayd just get participation trophies for everything” since I was a kid in 2000 and my dad was a kid in 1960 or 1970 whatever
This new version was April 18, 2006, and was only live for 2 days. The first days of Pest Control. That means someone had to play specifically on April 18th/19th, stop, and not play again until at least May 16th when the 2006 engine update happened and changed the cache format. Then of course the machine needed to stay intact for 18 years to reach us today, they needed to be aware of preservation efforts, and they needed to search and upload it. So many variables.
They submitted it to RS Archive earlier as well so you’ll already know their name if you frequent the finds there. Thank you Icapachua They have spent a few hundred hours playing with us already, welcome home.
Wow, really puts into perspective just how special and unique these cache finds really are, I was not aware there were so many variables that went into it. Shout out Icapachua!
Anyone want to meet up IRL and go digging in landfills for old PCs?
Yeah, because the game was constantly overwritten each version is like that, the older and/or smaller timeframes are rarer. We fully lost 2004 data completely until a few years ago when archive efforts ramped up.
There’s even more variables than just getting it archived, to get the game preserved. The big picture is a whole lot of luck and effort.
We are losing sources as time goes on (RIP early internet) AND we are lucky to have the time available to work on it. I consider this decade to be the last opportunity anyone but Jagex has to do it right.
They have multiple code backups before their OSRS version going back to late 2006, but it will never see the light of day.
RS2 continues to be forgotten and replaced with OSRS, there’s a whole generation that never saw this iteration live. We are the last bastion.
The last bastion… Pazaz if you ever get free time to play with the community, that would be the perfect name for your group/clan.
You’ve really shown just how much is at stake if people don’t continue to put in the effort to preserve as much as you and the devs and everyone else contributing has already. Makes this feel like it’s no longer about the nostalgia but a race against time to preserve what all of us were lucky enough to experience in real time.
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I think a number in the realm of 800-1000 would be ideal for the numbers you have been putting out. 3x more common roughly?
do you mean 12% of daily, weekly, monthly, or 12% of the total logged in during event as active players?
There seems to be some people in the main thread, who complain that they aren’t getting “a 50m bonus” to their account. I feel like that’s just not getting the idea behind these items.
I don’t think they should be tradable really. I understand why they are, and I’d never ask that they not be, but it’s still my personal opinion. So, I’m happy for the prices to be insane - practically unbuyable.
Getting a slice of history should be what it is. Not something to trade/merch/hoard/rwt.
I think your point of “getting a slice of history” is exactly why these items need to be rare, tradeable, and ultimately the root of controversy and everything that comes with it, as that was also a large part of their existence back in the day (and still is in RS3).
Luckily we have plenty of untradeable rares as well, with bunny ears earlier this year and hopefully the scythe on Halloween. 
